Navin ([info]mrsgollum) wrote,
@ 2008-01-06 21:27:00
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The SCG Shame
Recipe for a disastrous Test:

1 hallowed venue
1 Blind/Deaf/Dumb umpire.
Another umpire who lacks conviction and trusts Aussies implicitly
9 controversial decisions
1 Racism controversy
Opening and lower middle order woes
Ridiculous appeals and dishonest catches

One couldn't have asked for more things non-cricket from this match. Much has been written, but there seem to be 2 separate issues at hand:

1. Poor umpiring and player spirit
2. The racist sledging.

As far as umpiring goes, it is clear that Bucknor and Benson erred miserably and nipped wonderful innings in the bud. That we would have held on for a draw had the decisions gone in our favor is useless speculation at this point of time. However, in the context of the state of the game, the decisions were crucial and tilted the balance quit unfavorably against us.

Kumble happened to mention that he was disappointed with the Aussie spirit. The issue again pans out into different domains - catches claimed by fielders and batsmen walking when they know they are out.

As Michael Clarke said, no batsman would ever walk when he was aware that the umpire was not sure of the decision. In fact, every batsman need not walk. The batsman is well within his rights to stay on and wait for the umpire's decision. After all, the umpires have a job to do. In that sense, the expectation of a batsman walking is an unreasonable one. If a batsman who knows that he is out is given not out; surely such a decision weighs on umpire's conscience and it is he who ought to be held responsible for such a decision. Decisions such as those where Ponting/ did not walk rest on Bucknor or Benson's abilities than the morality of the batsmen involved.

Coming to catches claimed by fielders and appeals pertaining to these, such claims have the tendency to deceive and tilt opinion in favour of the fielding side. In such cases, umpires, when unsure, should resort to technology. While I'm tempted to make a judgement about Ponting and the Aussie spirit (lack of it that is) of playing the game, the umpires' implicit trust of the same is to be blamed. Many catches claimed in this context were later analysed and proved by TV replays to be blatantly dishonest and desperate appeals to push for victory. The umpires erred in placing faith in the Australian claim of playing in the spirit of the game. Ponting and the rest of the team are wonderfully talented and extremely competitive, but in a game where they were pushed to the brink for the first time in 12-13 Tests, the desperation and the willingness to bend the rules was conspicuous.

Coming to Harbhajan's controversy, there's not much to say except that he should have known better. There are claims that there is no corroborative evidence to prove Symonds' claims. If Harbhajan did indeed say the word, he is to be punished and without compromise. And that is simply because he was aware of the repercussions of using such words (from arrests made earlier in Mumbai during the Aussie tour to India) and yet chose to do so. It's interesting to note so many angles to this controversy such as -

How would Sachin have testified? Surely, if Hayden and Gilchrist heard it, Sachin heard it as well since he was Bhajji's partner. If that is the case, would he protect his teammate at the cost of perjury?

Also, the context of the word "monkey" is easily misinterpreted. Is it racist? I remember being called various names linking my appearance to fruits, vegetables and animals at various points of time in my life. Is this racism? The divide between the Aussie and Indian cultures also comes to the fore. The Aussie culture is typically more hardened and rational than the Indian culture and hence more resilient in the face of abuse(give or take). Why, then, did Symonds, who is no saint himself, choose to file this complaint? Am sure worse has been spoken on the cricket field between the teams. That probably explains why the Indian team has chosen to file a counter complaint about Hogg using the word "bastard". It appears childish - this whole affair and may have been best left on the field.

If the tour does go ahead, which I think it will, then cricket will eventually take over. Given the state of mind in the Indian camp, the Perth test match could not have come at a worse juncture. Anil Kumble may feel justified in questioning the Aussie spirit but he will probably agree that the Indians have been outplayed during the crucial days of both Tests. This is probably what he needs to address more than the emotional melodrama that surrounds a tour that promised more cricket than controversy.




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[info]davenchit
2008-01-07 06:21 am UTC (link)
Dude, as far as Harbhajan goes, the question is whether there was any independent corroboration apart from the respective say-sos of either team. There doesn't seem to be. Great Bong claims that Procter clearly stated on camera that there was no stump-mike evidence. In that case, how can evidence be "incontrovertible"? Or is it "incontrovertible" if an Aussies says so and "questionable" if an Indian says so?

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[info]mrsgollum
2008-01-07 06:49 am UTC (link)
Procter has also stated that he is convinced beyond reasonable doubt(inspite of the lack of stump-mike evidence) that Harbhajan is guilty. It is also possible that apart from this lack of stump-mike evidence, the Indian camp itself did not present a united stand on the issue and may have wavered on its version of the details. Sachin's testimony is a grey area - it could well have worked against Harbhajan if Sachin was not able to state unambiguously that Harbhajan did not use the word.

And if that is not the case and it is the 'righteous word of the Aussie' vs. that of ours, then surely this comes out as a hasty decision.

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[info]davenchit
2008-01-07 06:57 am UTC (link)
>Sachin's testimony is a grey area - it could well have worked against Harbhajan if Sachin was not able to state unambiguously that Harbhajan did not use the word.

Reconcile this statement and "beyond reasonable doubt". Then pose the question of:

>the 'righteous word of the Aussie' vs. that of ours,

Get what I mean?

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[info]mrsgollum
2008-01-07 08:36 am UTC (link)
Yeah I do see. To me, it seems that the Indian side may have presented a relatively weaker case (speculating of course) than the united Aussie front.

In which case, it also seems possible that Mike Proctor considered the relative strength of arguments as reason enough to make a decision, inspite of the definite lack of corroborative evidence.

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[info]davenchit
2008-01-07 08:48 am UTC (link)
Mike Procter may indeed have decided the Indian team's arguments were weaker. But that still doesn't qualify as "beyond reasonable doubt", which is a very strong statement indeed- it implies the presence of evidence.

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[info]mrsgollum
2008-01-07 09:31 am UTC (link)
Agree.

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[info]vrikodhara
2008-01-07 08:47 am UTC (link)
I think I agree with you.

Absence of proof of innocence is not proof of guilt.

Sachin not providing an unambiguous statement in support of Bhajji does not imply that Bhajji is guilty.

Anyway, legalese aside, given the way the Aussies go on on the field, Cricket involving Aussies should be a verbal free for all.

Or India should go on into the field wired up, and have Aussies playing with their 3 string team by the finals of vb.

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[info]davenchit
2008-01-07 08:55 am UTC (link)
Exactly. Let us say Sachin said that he was too far to hear what Bhajji said, but then went on to provide a character testimonial. This doesn't prove anything either way. However, five Aussie players then claim that Bhajji said the "m-word". That still doesn't prove Bhajji did it beyond reasonable doubt- there is no independent evidence. Procter is basically saying that Aussie say-so is sufficient evidence- this after a match of fraudulent appeals.

The Aussies have disgusted me- from the behaviour of their "sportsmen" to bigoted articles like this one: http://www.smh.com.au/news/cricket/a-class-act-opinions-differ/2008/01/04/1198950076545.html?page=1

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[info]mrsgollum
2008-01-07 09:28 am UTC (link)
owever, five Aussie players then claim that Bhajji said the "m-word". That still doesn't prove Bhajji did it beyond reasonable doubt- there is no independent evidence. Procter is basically saying that Aussie say-so is sufficient evidence- this after a match of fraudulent appeals.

I'm assuming the text of the hearing will come out, verbatim, someday. Would be interesting, if not scandalous. The Indian media is known to have a worm up its behind ('G mein keeda' as they say) and I'm hopeful this otherwise annoying trait will provide some interesting titbits this time.

It's an atrocious article - the one you have linked to. Am surprised something to this effect came out on SMH. It got its just desserts with the retort on Cricinfo. I'm equally disgusted at the way these guys conduct themselves when push comes to shove.

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[info]mrsgollum
2008-01-07 09:30 am UTC (link)
Absence of proof of innocence is not proof of guilt.

Totally.

Or India should go on into the field wired up, and have Aussies playing with their 3 string team by the finals of vb.

Am sure they would learn by the 2nd game and we would have a relatively quiet series. Am seriously considering initiating a motion to wipe out all records of this farce of a match.

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[info]vrikodhara
2008-01-07 10:41 am UTC (link)
Am seriously considering initiating a motion to wipe out all records of this farce of a match.

Snap out of it! You are talking like a TOI headline writer or and India.TV newsreader.

#38. How can you do that to #38?

But then, yeah...

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[info]mrsgollum
2008-01-07 11:03 am UTC (link)
heh, serious catch-22. The game itself hurts but wiping out #38 for this game, esp. when we were not exactly expected to win this series, seems a little funny.

Okay, I'm out of it. Let #38 stay. Let other memories of this game die a natural death in obscurity.

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[info]oldhen
2008-01-07 06:34 am UTC (link)
Nice summary.. Given that Sachin is held in such universally high esteem, his testimony would've been crucial, and proabably will be at the appeal. If India loses the appeal, I can only suppose that Sachin didn't defend Harbajhan which in turn would suggest that he was guilty of using the "monkey" slur.

Sorry I missed your last quiz on quizbusters, had dropped off lj for a while. Damn, a whole set on Che - aarrghh..

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[info]mrsgollum
2008-01-07 06:50 am UTC (link)
true, Sachin's word or silence may have been crucial.

Check the dry set out out at quizbusters.

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[info]davenchit
2008-01-07 07:03 am UTC (link)
>suggest that he was guilty of using the "monkey" slur.

"Suggest" is quite a long way from "beyond reasonable doubt".

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[info]ragh_dr
2008-01-07 09:08 am UTC (link)
I agree that the way Benson came to a few decisions can be classified as extremely silly and stupid. All said and done, this is quite a normal phenomenon regardless of geography and will probably continue unless some hard decisions are taken. I don't understand why the Indian media is making such a big fuss about it (led by Gavaskar). Let's face it. Indian curators have taken many a match away from the opposition even before they had started by rigging pitches. A V Jayaprakash and Bansal have given innumerable dubious decisions which have tilted matches in India's favour (including hatricks and a 10 wicket haul for Kumble). I don't remember well...was it during Australia's tour of India 1998 or 2001 that McGrath was adjudged lbw minutes before the end of the 5th day thus ensuring that India won the match and series? (that was just an example..)

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[info]mrsgollum
2008-01-07 09:44 am UTC (link)
I don't think you are seeing the distinction here, friend.

don't understand why the Indian media is making such a big fuss about it (led by Gavaskar).

Benson's decisions were stupid, but Bucknor's decisions were outright wrong. Count through the number of nicks that went unnoticed, the 'pad-nicks' that were given, the dubious catches claimed and put them in the context of the game -Symonds was on 31 and went on to make 162 when Aus had lost 6 wickets. Dravid and Ganguly may well have batted 2 sessions to save the test. More examples are there. If anything, all this fuss is needed, esp. when the game got turned on its head by the umpires' incompetence.

Indian curators have taken many a match away from the opposition even before they had started by rigging pitches

Making turning pitches is catering to home advantage. Similar to creating a pitch at Perth that will assist local fast bowlers. Visiting teams are expected to counter local conditions and pitches are a part of that equation.

V Jayaprakash and Bansal have given innumerable dubious decisions which have tilted matches in India's favour (including hatricks and a 10 wicket haul for Kumble).

I dont think there were as many dubious and blatantly wrong decisions in the matches you mention as there were at the SCG. In fact, a lbw decision was open to interpretation before Hawk-eye came in. Today, it is scrutinized with pinpoint accuracy. As I said, the case for technology grows stronger - for lbws, bat-pads and such. If the umpire has the option, he should use it if he's unsure. That's what has been so disgusting about the umpiring in this match - they have not bothered to use technology and trusted questionable player opinion.

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[info]foot_notes
2008-01-07 10:48 am UTC (link)
The Bansals and the Jayaprakashes of the Umpiring world ensured that neutral umpires were brought into the Test Arena. A good thing - but one couldn't still get rid of the inherent biases I guess. And, while we talk about Bansals, why not Bensons too? So, who's fussing? :)

And, what's wrong with preparing a slow pitch? Would an Australian curator do it? Obviously he'd prepare a green track and not something that'd assist Bhajji!

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[info]ragh_dr
2008-01-07 12:33 pm UTC (link)
I have(rather, had...I am not as interested in cricket as I was earlier) always supported the idea of passing over the major onus of umpiring to technology and make umpires cursory representatives for the sake of tradition. As I said, I am not a very keen follower of the game and probably I don't feel as intensely as a die-hard fan about the happenings ... :)

And, what's wrong with preparing a slow pitch? Would an Australian curator do it?

There is nothing wrong in preparing a pitch for the sake of a slight home advantage. But it shouldn't offer an unfair edge to one side. Back during the days of Walsh/Ambrose, I remember that the Aussies were repeatedly beaten black and blue at Perth...but I dont't think they played around with the pitch a lot. In India, they do play around a lot with the basic nature of the pitches (of course, because there is a lot media attention and big bucks involved). Also, by preparing extra slow pitches, I think we are just painting ourselves into a corner. It will only become more difficult for us to fetch results outside barring the sub-continent. Just look at the number of players who are very good at Ranji trophy but very bad at tests outside. Not to mention India's dismal record outside. I think Kapil Dev moved in the right direction initially with Mohali and pressurized BCCI to look into pitch conditions. But, it fizzled out I guess.

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[info]mrsgollum
2008-01-07 03:00 pm UTC (link)
Raghu, we seem to be confusing issues here.

First of all, nothing that happened at SCG could be justified by the kind of arguments about pitches in India being made. Those were decisions made as a result of thorough incompetence or extreme bias - either of which is unacceptable with the game so evenly poised.

Also, by preparing extra slow pitches, I think we are just painting ourselves into a corner. It will only become more difficult for us to fetch results outside barring the sub-continent

Barring Kapil, India has almost always won matches at home using spin, thus encouraging pitches which turn from the 3rd/4th day. Batsmen failing abroad has encouraged development of faster pitches at home. All in all, this has nothing to do with rigging. In fact, Australia won the last India tour with genuine contributions from spinners Shane Warne and Nathan Hauritz. In fact, the tour also featured a fast track at Nagpur if I remember right. More recently, India won a test in SA due to its pacers.

The point here is if a team can exploit local conditions well - they can win. None of this means local conditions favour *only* the home team or rigging is in place.

As far as the SCG match goes, many of the outbursts are emotional and confuse issues. But I think the umpiring issue which is at the core of the issue is quite pertinent and cricket-lovers in general felt robbed of an even contest because of that.

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[info]davenchit
2008-01-07 12:14 pm UTC (link)
This might cheer you up. At least there are some sane voices from Australia.

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[info]mrsgollum
2008-01-07 12:34 pm UTC (link)
Roebuck. Yes, he's called it as it is - this time around. At times though, I find that he is of the Gavaskar-category in his inveterate dislike for the Aussies.

This time, though, his column stokes the right sentiment, I guess.

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[info]praveenkumarg
2008-01-07 03:42 pm UTC (link)
Nicely put...
It was a match of bad decisions and worse umpiring.

But nobody seems to give the necessary focus on the wickets that fell like a pack of cards at the end.
The issues are sure a concern but the actual issues with the game itself needs more attention.

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[info]jayasankarvs
2008-01-08 04:54 am UTC (link)
I think it's all carefully and meticulously orchestrated. The 'establishment' seems very determined to hand out Australia their record breaking series of wins. The Sangakkara 'dismissal' was a pointer of sorts, as far as I'm concerned. It seems as if the powers don't want Australia to lose. Symonds, I feel has been chosen carefully by his skipper to come out with such allegations at crucial points of time to divert attention from Australia's antics on and off the field.

p.s: Was Bucknor racist in ruling in Symonds' favor?

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[info]mrsgollum
2008-01-08 05:08 am UTC (link)
The 'establishment' seems very determined to hand out Australia their record breaking series of wins. The Sangakkara 'dismissal' was a pointer of sorts, as far as I'm concerned. It seems as if the powers don't want Australia to lose

Interesting thought. But, just for arguments' sake, what good would it bring for the game? If anything, even the Aussie public is bored of non-competitive and one-sided games. And even if the idea is to help the Aussies win at all costs, how would that bring money to the ICC coffers? After all, isn't the BCCI bloc the cash cow?

Symonds, I feel has been chosen carefully by his skipper to come out with such allegations at crucial points of time to divert attention from Australia's antics on and off the field.

He's certainly the most colourful in the team - what with his pre-game drunk antics during the WC. To me, a plausible explanation is that at MCG, Ponting saw that we were no pushovers and this was not one of those series where his team would dominate consistently. At Sydney, his worst fears came out when the team stuttered to 134-6. Add to this whole scenario - a set of umpires - 1 who has an inherent bias against India and the other who holds the Aussies a lot more favorably - and the goose was cooked. The Aussie 'gamesmanship' combined with these insecurities and biases has led to what happened.

About Harbhajan, it is now irrelevant if he even said the m-word. Procter, in the face of lack of evidence, could have given a more balanced ruling. He hasn't and the truth will now be lost in a mad battle of our word vs theirs. In a sense, I'm happy Ponting has been found out - he was never honest or a great sportsman to start with - hypocritical shows of honesty notwithstanding.

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[info]mrsgollum
2008-01-08 05:12 am UTC (link)
Was Bucknor racist in ruling in Symonds' favor?

Heh. We could always raise it but the race-link would be weak considering Bucknor could always claim that his decisions were based on his view of whether Symonds nicked it or was stumped or not.

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